Porsche, Aston Martin and Lamborghini on F1 radar
- Published on 30 Nov 2017 12:32
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- By: Rob Veenstra
Ross Brawn says he wants more car manufacturers to enter formula one. This week, it was finally confirmed that the Ferrari-linked Fiat brand Alfa Romeo is entering the sport in 2018 as Sauber's title sponsor.
But F1 sporting boss Brawn told Sport Bild: "There are several premium manufacturers that I would like in formula one. Porsche is one of them, but also Aston Martin and Lamborghini. That's why we need to create an environment that's attractive to them," he said.
Brawn said it is therefore crucial that F1 simplifies the engine rules for 2021. "I guarantee you: with today's power unit, no manufacturer is interested in getting started. That's why we have to make it cheaper and easier," he insisted. (GMM)
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Login to replycalle.itw
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It'll be either Lambo or Porsche. VW is likely not keen on funding two teams. Aston Martin... I dont see how they'd enter F1 other than taking over a team or rebadging an engine. They have no experience in building engines themselves.
RogerF1
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They designed and build the current new V12 in the DB11. Ford Cologne is where it is located, it is designated Aston Martin Engine Plant - AMEP. They do know how to design engines, I know this for sure.
calle.itw
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Those units are perhaps modified by them, but they are supplied to AM by Mercedes. The deal has been in place for quite a while.
RogerF1
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Nope, that's the V8 just launched. The V12 was their own 1st baby, wait for the next one, it won't be from Merc. This is why they recruited Maximilian Szwaj from Ferrari.
calle.itw
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True, but its likely not a true 100% in house build. The two engines share platform, meaning there are bound to be Mercedes components in it. But even if they did build regular engines, an F1 unit is a completely different thing. Honda is the world's largest engine supplier, they know their engines, and look what happened when they joined the fray. Sure, They were underprepared, and were then lead by the Japanese equivalent of Sean Todt, but even then. Even with outside help, I doubt AM has the funds or resources to do this. As they basically say outright: they need standardized components if they want to make a serious entry.
RogerF1
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Interesting thread Calle. V12 was a very old engine and the new AE31 mostly new parts except a few carry over even new block but same design base. Merc V8 is 100% Merc and was a short cut to replace the older Rover based V8 from way back. Mahle had a big hand in the redesign of the V12. Totally different throughout no shared parts V8 to V12. PS we do OEM service engines as well as V12 engine parts. Can’t say any more about next steps but like you, doubt it will be F1 PU but Redbull tie raises the public profile.
samuelw
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its brilliant technology but maybe a step too far for some .. v8 with kers was good start then it went horribly wrong
calle.itw
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F1 wasnt ready for MGU-H. Brilliant tech, but when only one team properly nail the concept, it just isnt something beneficial.
kngrthr
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the Olympics need to create an environment that's attractive to me.
I'm 50 odd and 10kgs overweight but surely if they dumb it down enough i can at least compete.