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Jos Verstappen: "Red Bull partnership won't last if things keep going like this"

Published on 28 Aug 2017 16:10
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By: Fergal Walsh

Max Verstappen's father Jos has stated that it is possible his son could leave Red Bull if the problems with the car persist. The young Dutchman retired from his sixth race of the season after another engine problem forced the teen to pull to the side of the track early on during the Belgian Grand Prix.

Verstappen has only one podium to his name this year while he has been forced to helplessly watch teammate Daniel Ricciardo bag six. Speaking to Dutch TV channel Ziggo Sport, Jos admitted that the situation was very difficult to accept.

Asked if it was an option to leave Red Bull, he said: "Maybe this is the wrong moment to ask this question, but you do start to question everything. I notice about Max that he's very disappointed. It's tough to keep yourself motivated the whole time when things are going like this.

"I mean, he's doing very well in qualifying, he's half a second quicker than his team-mate and he's just behind the Ferraris. And then, after seven or eight laps, he's standing at the side of the track again. This should not be able to happen, certainly not at a top team."

"Max can't do anything. Max isn't doing anything wrong," he continued. "People are asking that question again if Max is being too tough on his equipment. But that's complete nonsense. He can't overdrive, he can't break the material. We all know what it is: it's just the equipment that isn't good enough. I think we all need to calm down for a bit and then maybe we need to sit down with each other because this won't last if things keep going like this."

Fergal Walsh

calle.itw

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"He can't overdrive, he can't break the material." Complete utter rubbish, and nothing but a play for the gallery. But I do agree that the fault do, at the end of the day, lie with Renault.

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Aug 28 2017 - 16:20

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calle.itw

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"He can't overdrive, he can't break the material." Complete utter rubbish, and nothing but a play for the gallery. But I do agree that the fault do, at the end of the day, lie with Renault.
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- Aug 28 2017 - 16:20
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  Any recent driving experience in a modern F1-car, Calle?
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  Aug 28 2017 - 16:49
- calle.itw
  
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  No, but none of us really do, do we? My comment is based on what I've heard and read, thats really all I can base it on. The same apply for a majority of the people here.
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  Aug 28 2017 - 18:28
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  Mind, what Im saying isnt that Max did break the things. What I rubbished is the statement that he cannot break the material, thats something we know is fully possible. Do I think its Max' fault this? No. As I've said, at the end of the day, Renault has failed to provide a reliable engine.
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  Aug 28 2017 - 18:31
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  Well let me put it this way: 10 years ago you would have been right. Nowadays software is controlling everything and not just that, software is, for exampke, preventing the driver form over-revving the engine. So the only thing that really happens when you're too late shifting up is that you will lose traction.
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  Aug 28 2017 - 18:53
- calle.itw
  
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  All right, let me put it this way: protective software isnt a foolproof solution to protect hardware. Take it from a guy who builds PCs. It can warn the user when its reaching it's limits, yes, it can limit functions and revs, correct, and it can shut down to prevent or limit damage, true, but it isnt a foolproof way. You can still overdrive the engines, and especially the MGU-H is considered to be sensitive for such damage. If you overdrive a hardware its bound to take damage. 'sides, something shutting down during a race isnt something a driver will like, so its still a bad situation.
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  Aug 29 2017 - 14:54
Close52

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As confirmed by Renault, it was an electronics problem. Renault has taken full responsibility for the failure.

What Jos means to say is that a lot of people are speculating if it is somehow related to Max' driving that he keeps having failures. This is absolutely not the case, all of his mechanical issues have been confirmed to have had external causes.
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- Aug 28 2017 - 18:58
FatMike

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Edgy translation. He concluded by saying that things can't continue on this manner. He didn't say anything about the redbull partnership
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- Aug 28 2017 - 18:59
RenaultFM1

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Where is he gonna go anyway, There is no seat at Mercedes and the red once are taken too..Maybe he want to go to renault or Mac Laren? maybe a good leasson about being patient..
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- Aug 29 2017 - 04:26
Patentprutser

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It was a software issue, first the security to prefent blowing up the engine, followed up by a software failure to disable the sensors so the engine can be restarted.
Renault already delivered the engine on thursday with a damaged cranckshaft.
RB has a big problem for having not a reliable engine partner, Renault makes a foul of themselves and they want to become a top team!
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- Aug 29 2017 - 12:42
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  I find Renault's "services" to be quite dismal. They will never be up there with Ferrari or Merc if they step it up.
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  Aug 29 2017 - 17:40
boudy

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Can't blame him; Currently one of the best drivers; should be in one of the best cars.

Redbull is already hacked off by Renault but the FIA doesn't step in and force the supply. Coupled with the issues around engines I can see Redbull pulling out of F1; what would happen if they lost two F1 teams?
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- Aug 29 2017 - 17:23
- Barron
  
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  Red Bull have tried to flex their muscles before but to no avail. Their best opportunity will come in 2 years with an engine rule change. You are likely to see other contenders in the mix, however, no-one is going to invest large sums of cash in designing and building an engine on spec, so I believe these kind of negotiations are going on right now, right across the Paddock (with the exception of 3 teams of course). Jos's statement is a bit of politicking to put pressure on Renault. At least, that's my interpretation. In F1, no one says anything for nothing (no purpose).
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  Aug 30 2017 - 10:41