Mass: "Max Verstappen is too convinced of himself"

Well, a little, but then again, doesnt most of the driver up there do that? Take a peek at Vettel and Hamilton, for example.

Monza was the second time in 3 races that Max destroyed his chances at a good result. I don't fully agree with Mass, I think Max is an incredible talent. But he's also his own worst enemy.

Oh look, a Dutch guy defending Verstappen. Shocking.

Yyyeah, his win in Barcelona was TOOOTALLY down to his skill. His skill made the two Mercs crash out of the race. His talent was what made Raikkonen lose downforce and traction in the last chicane, which resulted in him losing all the gains he'd been making throughout the rest of each lap.
It's ironic by the way - the chicane was put there to HELP with overtaking...
So yeah, it's not that Barcelona is obnoxiously tough when it comes to overtaking in dirty air and until last year the tires were pretty crappy. It was MAX and his TALENT.

Remember Maldonado - a driver known for being... average at best? Remember how Alonso (definitely A LOT quicker driver) couldn't get past him in a much better car?
I'm sure you'll say he won solely because of his talent, just like in Verstappen's case ;D

@ENDR you make so many bad points it's hard to know where to start. I'll take the time to correct your absurd rant.
- Verstappen is undeniably talented. His win in Spain was down to a lot of luck, nobody disputes that. That being said he drove a great racd

- Maldonado was a below average driver, but his win in Spain was spectacular. Not luck, not the layout of the track or anything else. Just read Alonso's quote after the race

You might want to be more thoughtful in the future before aggressively writing absurdities in horrendous prose.

Again somebody who wants to be in the news, and again the Max haters can agree with someone's opinion.
Max is one of the most talented drivers at the moment. He also makes mistakes, apparently he seems to be human.
@ENDR you discribe yourself how Max won the race at Spain, what has he done wrong there? And still, when the opportunity is there to win a race, you have to be there and he was and played well.
I assume you're a huge Vettel and Ferrari fan. I didn't know that fan's of Vettel were whinning also all the time. I presume you are an exception

@patentprutser I agree with you. I and just like Verstappen was lucky back in Spain he has been very unlucky this year, potentially missing on a win or two. I think he's the most exciting talents since Lewis Hamilton came to Formula 1. Perhaps more so. Also calling me a Vettel fan? How do you figure? Anyway, I am more of a closeted Ferrari hater ha.

@PATENTPRUTSER: I'm "a huge Vettel and Ferrari fan" because of... what exactly?
Because I don't hail Verstappen as the next F1 prodigy? Or is it because of my German flag next to the nickname (chosen because there are no more appropriate country flags on this site)? Hell, I used to spread hate on Vettel when HE was being called the newest "wunderkind" (having the quickest car helps with achieving that A LOT).
Yyyyeah, it's easy to pull assumptions out of your ass.

You take the time to correct one poster for making bad remarks and advice him to be more thoughtful an future, then proceed to call Jochen Mass a "nobody"? Right.

- Alonso is not entitled, but does deserve (merely based upon past performance and current talent) a winning car
- What's your beef with Perez? The guy is super talented and everyone that matters on the grid knows it. I am not sure he ever claimed what you just said
- Grosjean... we agree.

I think that's spot on.

That'd be media's, rabid fans' and hype culture's fault. Hyping something or someone is about as healthy as cyanide, and about as tasty when it blows up on you.