Vettel says slower cars in 2019 would be comical

Tyres are actually better then they were before. The issue is 100% the aero. You get within 2 seconds of the guy in front and you are already losing downforce. On top of that engine overheating and brakes being an issue. Don't think the tyres are at fault here. That's the point of the 2019 changes.

Better doesnt mean sufficient. The tyres melt like cheese behind other cars. Im sure we'd see much better racing if the tyres wouldnt burn away from below the car. Of course the aero is also an issue, but at this rate I dont think less aero will help. 'sides, DRS is already helping that on the straights, get close enough and it wont be an issue. But then again, I'd think having 4 PUs instead of 3 would be even more helpful.

One pitstop a race is also not good for the sport in my opinion. Can they make a tyre that lasts most of the race? Well they already did most of the race today so not really sure where you'd want Pirelli to go next? They are pretty good and not cheese. It's not the tyres. It's the wake. This was alreay warned for and established for certain right after the regulation change. If you lose downforce, the tyres are not going to like that, which is obvious. But it's not the cause, it's an effect, and not a major effect that needs sorting.

The main issue isn't tire degradation when following, it's the washout. Sure that causes tire deg because they have to work them harder, but still they can't control the car very well because of the aero packages in the front of the car being too sensitive to dirty air.

And thats the same for most parties. All of them care for their own goals, and little about the rest. All of the teams have their own agenda, the FIA have their agenda, and Liberty have their agenda. Introducing one more party like that might not be a bad thing, it'll likely just introduce more perspectives into the mix, and I dont think thats too bad.

This should have been a reaction to Calle.ITW's comment. Aps

Because its a mute point. They have already invited people with such objectives. And most drivers want to be able to overtake, they just dont want to get overtaken. So far from all of them will block things that might hinder overtaking, because its a thing they find annoying aswell.

Just because there are already distractions invited around the table they should invite more? That does not make sense to me. But anyway, this concerns Vettel and Hamilton. I don't believe for a second they are interested in cars that are better in overtaking, not as long as they drive the fastest cars on the track and are nr one in their team. Look at their comments (if they are quoted correct), they want to persist with wider cars and more aero. All that makes is harder for their team mates and the few cars that might challenge them to get close. It seems to me that they focus all effort on the qualification, and then wait out the race, "see first to get close, and second to pass me, you'll ruin your tires, and have less downforce, see ya!"

If it was that simple, they'd have used that solution, but it isnt.

AH! There are few things that stop logic from prevailing. One is money-the other, egos, CALLE.ITV! The money aspect is as simple as people loosing jobs, the ego-end could be saving face and not admitting Indycar formula as the best for passing, or not admitting that technology banned 40 years ago is, in fact, the course F1 should have stayed on.

Problem is that your solution is cheaper, and the people ruling F1 are cheapskates. If it were the best solution, they'd not hesitate in implementing it. Pride isnt on the table for business folks, especially not in F1. Remember when they implemented hybrids after WEC did it? It isnt a coincidence really. They need to stay on top, and if some other series is doing something, F1 needs to do it better.

Hum-i'll agree to disagree! ;-)